how does coverage work if you have diabetes versus if you dont
#canada 2026-01-24
- provincial_pat — the november cap. every single year 20:16
- provincial_pat — member-reported, 2025, and please do not treat this as a formulary 20:49
- ari_arrives — so private insurance is the actual healthcare system for this 20:50
- provincial_pat — clinicians ahead of payers is the theme of the decade 21:18
- reta_resting_hr — the order they cared about. thats a genuinely useful detail 22:36
the freezing worry is more room theory than published data for these specific compounds and we should keep saying so
sorry to jump in anyone in ontario able to say what theyre actually paying
is there a national picture at all or is it entirely provincial
postal in winter
update from 17 months ago: my province still does not cover it and my plan started to, partially
for the archive i had a parcel sit in an unheated depot at minus eighteen for two days and the powder tested fine, take that with a pinch of salt
the depot delay in winter runs longer than in summer and that is the part people do not plan for, take that with a pinch of salt
powder survived a freeze
quebec is different
coming back to this the last leg across the prairies in february is the risk. the flight is heated and the truck is not
my monthly cost with partial insurance came to about 120 canadian dollars, which is not a number anybody else can use
Archive lookup: electrolyte_eli first appears in this channel on 2025-07-06.
is provincial coverage as much of a patchwork as it looks from outside
does the postal service or the courier handle winter better
*Janoshik not the other one
moved from Ontario to Alberta and my coverage story changed completely. is that expected
entirely expected. drug coverage is provincial and the provinces do not coordinate
welcome to Alberta. what does your workplace plan look like, because that matters more here than the public formulary does
decent plan, 80% up to a cap
then youll be broadly fine and youll hit the cap in november every year
the november cap. every single year
what does the public side actually cover
for the diabetes indication, with criteria, generally something. for weight management specifically, in most provinces as of 2025, essentially nothing public
Quebec is its own animal as usual, with the public plan and the private plan interacting in ways i have never fully understood despite living here
nobody understands Quebec pharmacare, including Quebec
rude and accurate
member-reported, 2025, and please do not treat this as a formulary
| Province | Public cover for weight indication | Private plans | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ontario | no | commonly yes, with caps | public cover for diabetes with criteria |
| Alberta | no | commonly yes | workplace plan is the deciding factor |
| Quebec | no | mandatory plan interaction | unique structure, ask locally |
| British Columbia | no | often yes | special authority for diabetes |
| Atlantic provinces | no | varies | thinner pharmacy coverage rurally |
so private insurance is the actual healthcare system for this
for this class, in most of Canada, yes, and that is a fairly uncomfortable sentence about a public system
the guideline picture is the other half. Diabetes Canada, the old CDA, has had GLP-1s in its guidance for the diabetes indication for years
obesity guidance in Canada is separate and it has been ahead of the funding for a while. the clinicians got there before the payers did
clinicians ahead of payers is the theme of the decade
how does the price compare to the US
much lower. as of 2025 i was paying in the low CAD 300s a month for the diabetes-labelled product at a mid dose
which is why a certain amount of American attention has pointed north over the last few years
and why there are export restrictions designed to stop bulk buying draining our supply. thats real policy, not a rumour
and it is not our job to help anyone route around it. describing is fine, planning is not
same line as always
does anyone get it through a compounding pharmacy here
less of a phenomenon than it was in the US, and the regulatory picture around it has tightened. it was never the main route here
the main route here is a script, a pharmacy, and an argument with an insurer
the great Canadian trilogy
how long did the insurer argument take you
eleven weeks and two letters from my doctor. approved in the end, and the second letter was the one that worked because it listed comorbidities in the order the insurer cared about
the order they cared about. thats a genuinely useful detail
ask your prescriber what the insurer usually wants to see. they know. they just dont volunteer it
coming back to Quebec being its own animal — is it better or worse if you actually live there
better if you are low income, worse if you are middle income with a mediocre plan. thats my read after nine years
which is true of almost every hybrid system on earth
depressingly portable insight