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#anz 2026-03-13

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Highlights from this day
  • ten_of_ten — i was wrong about the compounding change taking effect immediately, it was phased, and i had told three people otherwise 20:57
  • quiet.hours — how bad is the heat problem in january really 21:08
  • cold_pack_carla — the honest summary for australia is that the rules changed under people mid treatment and the room is still sore about it 21:28

three gel packs and a foil liner got mine through a january delivery. the packs arrived liquid and the powder was fine

PP

people did stockpile before the compounding change and some of them are still working through it, from memory

PP

whats the pbs position, is it covered for weight at all

MM

a parcel of mine sat in a queensland depot for 4 days in summer, and it tested fine afterwards, which surprised me

MM

follow up i pay for the fastest service in summer purely to shorten the hot part, not to get it any sooner, thats one data point

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MM

sorry to jump in insulated pouch, gel packs frozen solid, fastest leg you can buy. that is the whole summer protocol as this room has it

dont order in january

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lyophilised powder survived an australian summer for me. reconstituted would not have and i would not try it

shipping into an australian summer, what do people actually do about it

RR

did the compounding rule change actually stop everything or just the big places

i tested a vial after a summer transit out of pure paranoia and it came back 96.8. one vial, one result

powder survived

nobody here can tell you what is allowed in australia and the mods will stop that conversation, n of 1 obviously

QH

the compounding rule change happened and it did stop the pharmacies that were making it, based on what members reported here at the time

did the compounders give any notice before they stopped

TO

the pharmacist i asked was straightforward about supply and had no idea about anything else, which is fair enough, thats just me

TO

i was wrong about the compounding change taking effect immediately, it was phased, and i had told three people otherwise

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how bad is the heat problem in january really

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transit was 21 days for me and the tracking went dark for a week in the middle, which is normal for that route

QH

the last leg to a rural address is where it bakes. the depot and the van are hotter than the plane ever was

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SN

an australian summer transit is the worst cold chain problem discussed in this channel and it is not close

CP

the honest summary for australia is that the rules changed under people mid treatment and the room is still sore about it

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CP

australian figures members reported ran from about 130 to 400 a month depending on route and dose, as of about a year ago, thats just me

CP

update from 25 months ago: supply where i am steadied and the price never came back down

a member in perth and a member in melbourne reported completely different transit times on the same supplier in the same month

reported by members, own currency, not comparable directly
  private clinic, UK      145 - 220
  statutory, DE            10 co-pay
  private script, DE      180 - 240
  pharmacy, PL             95 - 140
  pharmacy, SE            210 - 260
PP

as of a year or so ago there was no nz reimbursement for weight indications at all, so check rather than taking that as current
as far as i understood it a year ago, the pbs listing covered the diabetes indication and not weight management, and that split catches people out

PP

as far as i understood it a year ago, the pbs listing covered the diabetes indication and not weight management, and that split catches people out

three gel packs

RR

i keep a spare month in the fridge specifically because summer ordering down here is a gamble

does anyone hold off ordering between december and february

RR

clinic versus pharmacy came out roughly even for me once the consult fees were counted in

did anyone stockpile before the compounding change came in

PP

is there any reimbursement in nz at all or is it fully private

the wait to see somebody was quoted to me as a few weeks privately and much longer publicly, when i asked in 2024, ymmv

check thats still true